say is what other republican leaders in the past, presidential nominees in the past said which is if you support me, i don't want your support. this is a corruption. to even call it corruption of conservatism gives it too much credit. this is corruption of a belief system i really think does not exist on the linear scale or spectrum by which we judge political parties. but when the president is ambiguous like he was on saturday, unfortunately what it does is it turns into a well, on some people say this, and some say that. when this is not that. >> before the violence in charlottesville, in a recent poll, asked will trump unite the country, not divide it. 35% said yes, 61% said no. the perception over the past few days is that this country is not united. >> no, not at all, wolf. what's interesting is that trump when he won this election on election night said in the ballroom in the new york hotel where he was having his victory