denouncing them saying their fine people. do you think this president is racist? >> do i think he is -- >> racist? >> racist. i had an opportunity of meeting him years ago at a particular social event. i sat down and spoke with him we shared and broke breading to, and he didn't come across as racist. is he playing politics, you know i will lean inhat direction. one thing understand a decision is not made in a moment of time they're rooted in your character. those determine your moral and response to situations and i can only judge by his responses. they have been not been consistent with the kind of character that i can support. >> thank you pass store. thank for joining us i appreciate it. up next, is steve bannon more dangerous now that he's out of white house than he was inside. we'll speak to a reporter who spoke to bannon tonight.