things we have done in the past we are not going to get effective results. >> but to you bottom line, it's not acceptable to have a north korea that is nuclear capable? >> if they only wanted deterrence, it would be easy, we could just let them go. but they do two things, they sell this stuff to iran, and north korea has links to terrorist groups, so if we're happy about hezbollah having the bomb, then it's okay not to do nothing. but the more important thing is that you have an unstable situation on the korean peninsula, one rich, one poor. and the people in the poor korea are going to put up with that, but only if the kim regime actually goes out and accomplishes the core objective, which is to take over south korea. >> clapper's point was that if north korea didn't feel as much threat from south korea, if they felt kind of more accepted