it's just wrong. >> not only that, don, but someone as david mentioned who has been in goth, who has been in politics, he's not new to government like so many other trump officials. and so tom price can't say, you know, this was a beginners mistake. he understands the way the game is played in washington and so even if, you know, take the drain the swamp part out of the equation entirely, tom price never should have thought that that was going to be a good idea. and he knew -- i mean, as a congressman he was one of the republicans who stressed fiscal conservative, who stressed that government waste should be eliminated. it's just so hypocritical in so many ways and so you really wonder how he arrived at the point that he thought this was going to be a good idea and something that the president would approve of. certainly as the president said the appearance of this is just not good. >> there's a lot of projection that goes on with the administration, chris, and i