>> all politics is local. that's what your friend tip o'neill said. >> all politics is local and if you can point to somebody else and say this terrible person in this other country is causing us all these problems, that's pretty good domestic politics. >> how concerned are you about the hacking issue, not just here or -- >> i think that's something to be very concerned about, absolutely. >> accept that the conclusion of the intelligence community that russia was hacking. >> yes. >> do you think the president should just embrace that and move on? >> i'm not going to -- >> that's not hypothetical. >> i don't know whether he should or not. i guess reasonable minds could question that but i don't. i think if all the intelligence agencies say that they hacked us, i think they hacked us. >> and then it's incumbent on the president and the government to do something about it pro actively. >> to do something about it.