believe he has an big heart for them as well. >> what has it been like for you to have gold star families and all of your issues and these terribly sensitive phone calls thrusts into the lime line in the past 48 hours? >> well, you know, my experience has been similar. after my brother was killed in 2007 we did receive a phone call from president bush with an invitation to visit him in the oval office, which we did six months after travis was killed. similarly when the obama administration was there, we were invited on a few different occasions with other gold star families to be present at memorial day breakfast and such. at the end of the day what we have to look at is the idea of politicizing gold star families. i know i have had several people over the last 24 hours ask me if i was called by the president when travis was killed, and