flipping of papadopoulos and the explaining of the e-mails and the back and forth, that doesn't necessarily mean that papadopoulos will start naming names, correct? just because they flipped him? >> i'm looking at this through a counterintelligence lens, right? because that's what i did at the fbi. >> sure. >> what i'm seeing through this lens are the fingerprints of the russian government. what we know about papadopoulos is he met with a so-called professor who was linked to moscow, who introduced him to a ministry of foreign affairs official who we know is usually a cover position for russian intelligence. he was introduced to a woman who claimed to be a relative of vladimir putin who mueller tells us was not. we see manafort and gates making $17 million representing a pro-russian candidate and russian party in ukraine and putting that money where? in cypress. who uses cypress as a place to launder money? the russian intelligence service. people should be very worried right now.