the word from one of the president's attorneys, jay sekulow. there is no crime of collusion. technically he is not wrong. what do you say to that? >> these are the same people that said there was no interference and the same people that then said there was no collusion. so they were wrong on both those instances. and we'll see where this goes. look, i've said it to you on your program before, bob mueller is not going to be intimidated and not going to be misdirected and not going to be delayed or deceived or in any way distracted by the president's tweets. he's coming at this as the consummate professional that he is. >> your committee is also meeting with carter pain this week. he is another foreign policy adviser to the trump campaign and actually was on the same foreign policy advisory committee that papadopolous was on and he was also, of course, under scrutiny with his trips in connections to russia. here is what he had to say about yesterday's developments. >> were you guys on e-mail chains together, you and papadopolous?