based on the fact that in september, donald trump jr. tells the high command r of the campaign he has an active line to wikileaks. so all those people i suspect they've been brought into the grand jury or given an interview already. if they haven't, they're all implicated now. the circle has widened, the more of these bad facts that come out, they're only incriminating, not exculpatory. in many ways they contradict past statements that the campaign officials have made, which suggests they have a lot to hide. >> jason, does it feel to you like every now and then we learn more and more about e-mails and communications that donald trump jr. had? it makes me wonder when mueller who has access to all the e-mails he sent during the campaign, what else there might be? >> i feel like we're viewing everything that happened in 2016 through a 2017 lens. when we're talking about these dates, there was a lot of back and forth and people weren't sure who was behind the wikileaks. one of the things to keep in mind, you get an outreach from wikileaks, these guys clearly have a lot of tactics and techniques they're using online.
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