where everybody can enjoy it. >> andrew: so jeremiah has mentioned that back in the day when he was at stars, that he always thought of stars and tavern on the green as cousins, is the word he used, because they were both among the top grossing restaurants in the united states. they -- both places had sort of a grandeur to them. they were both very dramatic spaces. >> anthony: you know, back in its golden years, warner leroy owned tavern. he was this pt barnum like, uh, impresario. >> florence: it was a hub for events, but it was certainly not a place new yorkers went for dining. >> andrew: it was reopened with two restaurateurs from philadelphia at the helm, who had done nothing of a comparable scale. they brought in katy sparks, who's been a chef in new york for decades. >> florence: the bottom line is, the reviews were devastating. >> andrew: so now, here we have him coming to tavern on the green, which is really rudderless without a chef at the helm the last two months. there is this very sort of sense of deja vu, although you're going back 30-something years. >> jeremiah: in a restaurant,