>> it's classless. >> blue, you. >> but, you know, again, is this really the ceremony to being to that in? >> well, anderson, you know, many people that spend time with president trump describe him in person and in general as very charming and witty and funny. and i think that the men that were standing there -- i don't know if they were men and women, these navajo code talkers, they recognize that the kind of humor in it. they also recognize, by the way, that there's lots of people in their lives -- >> i'm not sure that they recognize the humor. they seem to be -- >> they look shell shocked. >> let me say it this way. i think what he said had an effect on the room and -- but, okay, i don't know what's in their heart. >> what effect was that? there was dead silence. >> tara, listen, i didn't interrupt you. you stood there on national tv and said you could read my mind about who i am. all i'm saying is this -- >> no, i didn't. >> when the president says that, and i think something that's kind of witty and funny and all of that, i agree, you don't think it's funny. here's the thing. the