she got tenure completely independent of any sort of native american background she has. in terms of her native american background, her family, like a lot of families in oklahoma, white families, there's a family story that a couple generations back, there were some native americans. if you talk to people in oklahoma, white people, it's very common. it's not like some exot, crazy claim. go ahead. >> my dad's family in mississippi always thought there was native american and i did an ancestry test and there isn't. >> many of us have family stories that may turn out to be true, may turn out to be untrue, but there's nothing -- >> did she ever write down on a form, i am part native american? >> it did appear, yes, in certain law directories, and that's the root of this controversy, that it did appear in these directories, but she