it all falls right into what you and i are going through today. >> let's talk about that. first of all, what about the world war ii experience generation, you know, i remember we're about the same age. i remember when john f. kennedy came to a little housing development where i grew up in new york to campaign in 1960. i was a little boy. and thinking back at it, this was a housing development for returning war veterans and everyone there had just experienced this. everyone coming together to repel fascism, defend democracy and there was a sense that anything was possible. that you could overcome any obstacle and i assume that's part of what attracts you to that generation. >> there was a paradox that i was aware of from a very early age. there were two versions of the war. one with was the movie war. the tv war, that ongoing mythic, celebration of what the myth was