reminds you of this. watch. this is richard nixon. >> in a sense, you're saying is that there are certain situations, the houston panel, that part of it, was one of them, where the president can decide that it's in the best interest of the nation or something and do something illegal. >> well, when the president does it, that means it is not illegal. >> that is familiar. >> i mean, it sounds like that's what he's saying, right? >> it's also emphatically wrong. i mean, it's wrong. >> if you bought that principle, you would buy into the principle that the president is above the law. >> yeah. >> and the president is not above the law. now, the president is a special, you know, feature in office within the constitutional structure, and so there are things that, you know, apply and don't apply to the president by virtue of his office, but what it doesn't mean, it doesn't mean that the president cannot obstruct justice. he can obstruct justice just like anybody else. >> when you --