immigrants from norway. that is problematic. that's why so many people are upset. that's why so many people are calling him a racist. >> you know what -- >> that is the coded -- that's not even coded. that's just straight up racist. >> symone, i'm going to give that to you that i understand the interpretation of that. he has just been with the president of norway, it was a convenience reference. remember, symone, you know this about me, i lived in ethiopia -- >> no, i'm not about to let this slide. we don't have to talk about that. let's talk about the -- >> wait a minute. >> one at a time. >> let me just say this. i lived in ethiopia. i sponsor three children since they've been in on orphanage -- >> all right. we in dangerous territory. you are giving me black friend territory conversation. >> no, no, no. >> what do you mean? >> as you probably know, i traveled many times with the congressional black caucus to africa. i was very involved with it as was senator jim mendenhoff. they're extremely fine people. one of the big mistakes americans make when they say africa, they don't understand it's 53 different