meant. that's one thing when it's in the public arena. it's a complete other thing when you're giving testimony as part of a federal investigation. >> right, even if you're not under oath. when you're speaking to investigators, you can -- yeah, dicey territory. let's move to something else. another shift from the president we've seen play out is, remember rocket man? he's short, he's fat, lock and load, fire and fury. the president has had some tough words about north korea and kim jong-un. but in the "wall street journal" interview this week, he said he would probably have a good relationship with kim jong-un. michael bernander, you pressed president, have you actually spoken with him, why would you say that? and he wouldn't answer. the president is tweeting this morning, t"the wall street journal" stated falsely that i have a good relationship. i didn't say that. i said, i'd have a good relationship with kim jong-un. fortunately, we now record conversations with reporters. um, fire away. >> first, i have to regret that it's come to this, right? we had a substantiative