doesn't -- does he not understand what is happening here? >> well, i think the president thinks that if he just lies enough enough people will believe him and he can just get away with it. to me it's astonishing. because a lot of people know about in story. i mean it was not only reported by the "times." it was determined by the "washington post" and other news media. we know this happened. maybe all the details aren't exactly right. but that's going to be a big problem that he -- the country is going to have to take. because we have a president who doesn't know how to tell the truth or can't distinguish between the truth and a lie. how can he appear before the special prosecutor, the special counsel? how will his lawyers allow him to go there? if he don't go what kind of constitutional crisis are with he confronting? i think that's serious. basically what we see in the effort to fire, the firing of comby, the effort to fire
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