yeah. we can't win. either we're being -- >> i don't think you're having it both way -- >> i think you're trying to have it both ways. >> he calls kim jong-un rocket man and but russia he calls nothing. russia has been a known malfactor. he never calls them out -- >> he just ordered military air strikes in syria. >> not on russian troops. >> hang on. because we've been deconflicting in that area and some of his diplomacy has worked and we haven't had to escalate the situation. i would certainly defend his actions. look, north korea is threatening to annihilate portions of the united states. of course, if vladimir putin went in that direction, the united states and this president would respond forcefully -- >> that's not the line of action that if they attack us then he'll be strong. gees, i'd hope so. >> or if they issued threats. >> he won't even acknowledge that they interfered in the