mueller, i think it failed miserably. but who knows? maybe donald trump will still fire rod rosenstein. it was smart of him not to have. >> tim, i wonder if you agree with this. i think, when you look at this, for instance you have the fbi director, the one who came in with the president's, you know, seal of approval after he fired james comey standing up to the president here. do you see evidence here that the institutions, in effect, are holding, right? that it's not, you know, a sort of redux of the saturday night massacre, et cetera, you know, nixon, watergate. >> a couple things. first of all, i think the institutions are doing well, but they're doing well in a hurricane. i mean what's unprecedented about today's release is that it's the first time that two branches of government have coordinated an attack on the independence of the fbi. in our history, we've had executive branches that have tried to undermine the fbi, generally secretly, not publicly the way that president trump