though he's pushing ahead. the big unanswered question that he did not answer and, to be fair, it is very early to answer this question is what is the specific? what are we talking about? what is he going to propose? never mind how much is he going to push to get it over the finish line. >> jamie and i were listening and we were talking through the briefing. we were having this conversation. i want to reiterate it now just on this whole notion of the nixon goes to china opportunity for the president with republicans on guns. >> right. >> is it? >> a lot of people would hope that that's the case. but at best, maybe -- maybe, maybe, maybe. just as dana was saying, the nra is not sitting back quietly. they came out today full force, repeating their position. they are not in favor of these things. and while the president will say i'm considering this -- the rest, he also said todayy think i'll be going up against them,