really was angry at jeff sessions for not recusing himself in an investigation. jeff sessions, we now know, threatened to resign over it. and the special counsel is actually investigating, has a criminal investigation open, and trump is under the microscope for this and other actions that could amount to obstruction of justice. so, you know, i suppose maybe it's the strength of our democracy that the president gets up there in front of the press and jokes about anything, but it's a pretty serious issue that's underlying that humor. >> sahil, the fact that jeff sessions actually pushed back this week, do you think this president now respects him more for it? or will this just deepen the divide? >> i suspect he will end up respecting jeff session more. we know this is a president who doesn't respect people who sort of roll over and are easy to push around. we've seen that time and again. but it was very notable that the president was joking about things that are very, very serious. maybe that's not necessarily a