at these meetings that we go about the whole of government effort. i'm tired of that term. i said i don't want to hear that. whole of government means none of government. i want some specific leadership on forming a cyber doctrine or a strategy, so that our adversaries know if they strike us, they're going to be hit back. if we, all we're hearing is about patching and protecting the state election systems. if all we're doing is trying to be defensive, it is like being in a boxing match with your hands behind. you can bob and weave and duck. eventually you'll get knocked out. the best way to protect ourselves is deterrence. that people have to understand, they're going to pay a price if they strike us. right now we're a cheap date. there are no consequences. no results. and i'm a sort of broken record on this. my poor colleagues on the armed services committee say there goes king again about this