speaks to the audience that is out there for this type of thing. but back to the real white house. jeff zeleny and others are reporting that the president doesn't think -- is being told by friends that he doesn't need a new communications director. hope hicks had her last day. the job is vacant right now. he's been told he doesn't need an official communications director or even maybe official chief of staff. what do you think? >> in any other white house, this would be mind boggling. such important jobs would be left unfilled. we don't know if the president will leave the jobs vacant, but the mere idea that he wouldn't need a chief of staff or communications director i'm sure will shock and frankly kind of worry folks who used to have the job. we both know bush and obama communications directors, we know how important those roles were in those white houses. people organizing events for the president. trying to help him set the agenda, figuring out ways to communicate his message through interviews and press conferences.