be looked at. here is the thing, it defies creditty. when you have somebody who is your house counsel and they're making a payment and you start talking about it or tweeting about it and you answer something in the press in the back of air force one you say something else here. your lawyer, michael cohen says something different. investigators are taking notes. they're putting that together. this is going to turn out to be, as i read the tea leaves, federal campaign violation. >> i've had people say no big deal. you know, this is if this weren't the president we're talking about and hush payments. who cares. why does this matter? >> financial crimes matter. you make a transaction with a individual to keep certain information private. in enxchange for money. that's not illegal. whenever you think about the ethics with an arrangement like that, you can do that. the problem comes in how are you accounting for that transaction?