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>> absolutely. they do not know, michael cohen and his lawyers do not know exactly what was seized. it was done on a no-knock warrant. they went into the safe-deposit box of his bank. they took his phone, his computers. it is -- an amazing amount of information that they have. and it's hard to say -- i would be surprise d if michael cohen himself and his attorneys could say with any certainty what it is that's on all of the multiple devices, the sources of information. remember, they went to his home as well as two offices, and again, the safe-deposit box, it's impossible to sort of really create a kind of defense when the other side is holding all the cards. in this case, the u.s. attorney is holding all of the cards. they know what they were looking for. they know what they have. and michael cohen is -- one reason you saw him on the sidewalk is if they take your computers and phones and they've

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