campaign. you have others who testified and pled guilty, including michael flynn. at the time comey was aware of the information, in the unique position, he didn't see evidence of it. it does not speak to what has come out in the comprehensive investigations. so i think that in a way the president is focusing on one moment in time at a static point that no longer is relevant. it's what has come out since his departure. for a lot of it, his actual end of his tenure is where the case truly began to pick up speed. >> it is somewhat of an assault on logic. on one instance, you have the white house saying, well, comey is a liar. and another saying, well, what he said we believe because it proves our case that we are not guilty is and did nothing wrong. both things can't be true. >> fair point. the other thing that comes up too is this preoccupation with the dossier. james comey talking about the fact that he explained that all