long time. not sure what's changed except the possibility of prison. >> michael cohen has been telling people he's loyal to the president. he said that as recently as today. loyal, loyal, loyal. >> i think he's a wonderful man. he's a tremendous unifier. he's man of great intellect, tuition and abilities. >> could personal feelings outweigh the loyalty, jason? >> i think someone's always going to deal with what's in their own best interest. i think jay's advice was spot on as far as what he said to the president. however, i disagree with mr. goldberg as that's not the kand of thing you should be going to the "wall street journal" to say because here's the facts. is that yes, mueller in his investigation clearly found something that was a problem b for mr. cohn and so he kicks that up u to rod rosenstein who