what were they talking about, potentially talking about the next summit. president moon has always said that the north/south korean summit was just the guidepost, almost the stepping stone to the summit between donald trump and kim jong-un. so, people here are optimistic, at least some are. we have had small pockets of protests in the street this saturday, hundreds of defectors gathered and said don't believe what you saw on friday. that was a show by north korea. do not trust them, as you would expect they would say, having escaped north korea and knowing the brutality of that country on a first-term basis. so, certainly there is skepticism here. there is also -- i've been hearing from some south koreans, some difficulty in reconciling the kim jong-un that they saw on their television screens on friday and the kim jong-un that they know about, that they have heard about from defectors, from the united nations, the human rights abuses, the fact that north korea has threatened to turn seoul into a sea of flames.