make a complete pivot to his promise on gun laws in terms of saying, yes, take guns first, go through due process second. yesterday, essentially promising his lighty to the nra. if you could sit down with the president, what would you say? >> i don't necessarily know. he's a professional liar that will say anything to appease whatever crowd he's at. if he's in front of families he might say something in support of common sense reform. but it's like comic-con, you only get a few. those who got membership of the nra free with the purchase of a handgun, they're not showing up and hold could trump accountable for what he needs to talk about. they aren't going to this dog and pony show that trump and pence are going to. it's a celebration really. and i -- i hope they're having fun this year. but the average members of the nra, they don't agree with trump's stance on guns.