their own volition. these are grown people that go to the white house press party every single day and lie. and as a press person, i have no respect for that. but i'm also not giving anybody an out. you make a decision to be where you are. and they have chosen to be there. >> let me step back for just a moment. we're portraying this in a dog eat dog tone as a political issue and there is a bigger issue, this is not a gentle me-too movement, this is about physical assault and a violation of law. i don't care whether you are the president or the dog catcher, you do not gloat when you have exposure of information that indicates somebody was physically assaulted. so i know there is a lot of commentary about what donald trump did or didn't do, i think it is regular vant but a higher order question, why are we gloating about an issue that resulted in the assault of a woman. >> and talking about the assault of women on "access hollywood" because they think it is a joke. you don't and i don't and you don't, but this is what they continue to do and it is disgraceful.