countanance and would never accept this. >> steve? >> listen, if you are going to sit in judgment of donald trump, moral judgment of him, then it is important that you realize that you served a president who supports abortion through the ninth month of pregnancy. that's an important distinction. we can have problems with donald trump as people of faith and problems with barack obama as a person of faith. let's be clear that it's the poli policies. >> as a pro-life person, you must be really astoundingly offended that they are mocking a man who is fighting for his life. right? that can't be a pro-life thing to do, right? to mock a man who is fighting a brain tumor? >> to mock a man that is near death is wrong. absolutely. >> should the white house apoll -- just say, look, we are sorry for what this person said or should the person who said it herself should publicly apologize? >> i think the white house should apologize.