and say we're not required to disclose this but in the interest of transparency, let's do it and that is the disclosure issue. and then the other issue which is did he direct what knowledge he had in terms of circumventing -- that is trump -- anything with cohen. did he know about it and direct him to do it? was it an in kind contribution and it raises thorny legal issues and causes more problems for this president. >> and gloria, a lot of shifting -- i'll put a graph up on the screen involving payment for the stormy daniels hush money. march 7th, sarah sanders at the white house said trump has no knowledge of payment. march 9th, michael cohen said payment was made with personal funds. earp 5th, president trump denies knowing about any payment. and may 2nd he said trump repaid cohen and may 3rd, he learned payment of details maybe ten days ago and may 4th, trump said giuliani wasn't totally familiar