are they buying it? >> oh, certainly people are going to buy it. those who already support -- human beings have this really interesting way of filtering out information that doesn't agree with their political beliefs. so those who are already supporters of the president or people who just don't like democrats or hate congress at large, they're just going to look at this and say yeah, it's the deep state that's out to get him. so this is just going to confirm their biases. >> peter, you want to weigh in? seems like you did. >> yeah, i did. it's not simply that trump can't be trusted. it's that he is a fountain of lies. and scott is wrong. it is not -- this is not something we have seen before. this is of a different category. it's not simply the number of lies. it's the velocity of the lies. it's the character of the lies. and he is doing this intentionally because of exactly what you've been talking about. we know this from brain science. which is the disoriented effect of lie after lie after lie day after day after day.