secretary of defense as we talked about hundred times. it's a republican running the department of justice. i'd add another point. for the first time in the 110 year history of the fbi, they're portrayed by the president as tree hugging liberals. that was not the fbi i experienced. i guess i represent after 33 years of watching this stuff, 25 years in government, a representative of the deep state, i didn't see it when i was in and i don't know how you claim it. >> if you accept the president's claim, you know, in a fulsome manner that there is a spy or this is a deep state, you'd also have to admit it didn't work, right, phil? >> it condition. if you accept the president's claim you would say that if you're investigating a mayor of a small town for corruption for example, sending contracts to his cousin, you're not allowed to investigate that, you're not allowed to put an informant in that. i don't care if you're a president or mayor, you're going to get investigated if there's evidence of a crime. >> let's talk about jared