kind of a -- not a great message to send, but is there anything sort of factually or anything specifically that you think his attendance -- why his attendance was inappropriate? do you think it sent a message in any way to anybody in law enforcement who was there or any of the other representatives, or do you think it was just kind of a perception issue? >> i think it is trying to throw their weight around. yes, i do think it is an effort to try to bully the department of justice. we've heard the president talk openly about bob mueller and rod rosenstein's jobs being on the line and that he has the power to get rid of them. anderson, i think the best way to stop this type of obstructive behavior would be to pass the bipartisan legislation that's come out of the senate judiciary committee which would prevent mueller from being fired unless there was cause. until you do that, you're going to see more obstructive behavior like this and a sense of feeling emboldened because no one from the republican leadership is saying no.