a signals and allows people to continue to talk about it. i don't think there's going to be a process put in place. the process is what stopped her from getting out of jail, kelly. actually >> that's not true, mike. >> there was a process that went to the justice department. the just department in the process denied it and president obama didn't even see it. so that process kept her in prison for years listening to appeals personally is what got her out of jail. i'm going to keep talking even though you're interrupting me. he wasn't a president-elected to be a process president. that's not what voters wanted. >> sometimes fairness is about process. sometimes fairness requires process, and i'm thrilled for ms. alice, and i'm thrilled for her family but i think we also do need a process. i think its unfortunate that the president let go of that process.