earlier this year, when we went to the democrats. the democrats don't want to fix this problem. they want this to be their issue going into the mid terms because higher taxes and less jobs is not a winning proposition for them. they don't want to fix the problem opini problem. that's the real issue here. >> this is a bipartisan bill. [ all speak at once ] >> erin? >> they refuse -- the trump administration refused to sign it. they made clear they wouldn't sign it. >> are both sides using the children as pawns? >> let me say this. this president and the head of homeland security could easily reverse this. >> tonight. >> and they could easily do it right now. but at the issue, sarah huckabee said, when i asked the head of homeland security definitively, is this about children being used as pawns for a wall? she said no, but sarah huckabee sanders came back when another reporter asked, can you just do it on this piece if you work with congress? she said it's all or nothing. so they want the wall included. >> do you have a problem with