this idea of sitting down and being able to tell in the first 30 seconds what he will do might work for a television show. it doesn't work for real life. this is a real threat. it's a serious challenge for the united states and much of the world. it's clearly not resolved despite the president's optimistic presentation. >> i'm curious, mike pompeo could not have been more clear going into all of this. complete, verifiable, irreversible denuclearization. they came up with an acronym for it they were so serious about repeating it over and over. how singapore changed anything? >> well, i mean, if you try to look for something positive that came out of it, what it did for kim jong-un sadly is it elevated him, it brought him on the international stage. there's some reporting that the president's contemplating inviting him to new york. this is the most brutal dictator probably on the lplanet right mo who murdered his own family, starved his own people.