party was not fixated on the abortion the way it is now, so it wasn't surprising that san ra day o'conner turned out to be more liberal than expected, but if you look at the nine justices on the current court, all were pretty much -- there were no surprises there. and there are not going to be any surprises here. we just need to have eyes wide open. >> to jeff's point, the past federal society would be consulted by a president. this case it was an outsource to the federal society. back in the day when you have a david suitor whose appointment would outrage conservatives or justice stephens, that ideology, that idea is so far gone. but if they get the right case and the opportunity to do it, you have to assume they will decide that way. and then the reaction will be, well, shrug emoji, who could