that's saved this situation. that's his own selling of what's been transpiring. every north korea expert has said unless you get to the point where you have an itemization of the nuclear resources and plan to let inspectors anded adjudice what's still going on, you don't have anything. building goodwill is an important thing, but the president is trying to play up what he has, which is not what matters at this point. the question of if he can get to what matters really is maybe not dependent only on him. as long as north korea has leverage points and other sponsors that are outside of washington, it's a much more complex, multilayered game. >> congressman mike pompeo was a hawk when it came to north korea. cia director mike pompeo was very skeptical when it came to north korea. or the secretary of state who has to please his boss, who wants this to go well and wants everybody to believe as he has