them, but the idea that the law enforcement agent separated us is just not true. i as a criminal in that case separated myself from my children just as they border crossers do. >> robbing a convenience store is a felony, entering the united states illegally is a misdemeanor. >> first time. >> so if you speed down the street go 35 in a 30, i should take your child and hide them in a state where you can't find them? that would be insane, right? >> we're out time. this is far more than speeding, and for the second time, it is a felony. and it should be the first time. >> wesley's point about a misdemeanor and felony is correct. your point about a second offense could lead to a felony is also correct, but unfortunately we'll have to leave this conversation there. thank you, guys. steve cortez, shirrage, and wesley, we appreciate your perspectives. a lot more news ahead, including