jens stoltenberg had a slightly sunnier view of what happened. he said on defense spending we had a frank and open discussion that created a new sense of urgen urgency. he said the president's clear message is having an impact and this nato is more united than befo before. so a new sense of urgency is one thing, spending is another, the details we have not seen. and despite what jan stolenberg said, more united than ever, we have heard from other people inside that meeting that it was tough, very, very contentious so we'll be interested to see as we hear from more nato leaders. >> and he didn't answer what he would doll if they don't increase military spending. let's get to what is happening as we wait for the president to get off of air force one in london. he said they like me in the uk, especially on immigration. no one has any illusion that this relationship between