evidence of russian collusion, but if you watch cnn and other networks, you would think there was russian collusion. >> and if you listen to the president of the united states, you would think that russia didn't do anything in the election. and one of his bases for that opinion is that putin says he didn't do it. now, is that an acceptable basis for, for denying everything your intelligence community -- >> i think the russians didn't interfere in the election. >> then why won't he say it? >> i think he has made a statement to the effect that he did agree with the intelligence agencies after he made some of the initial comments. but you've got to ask the white house. i don't represent -- >> i have many times. so many times i'm losing airlin hairline. i'm also losing time. you're a busy man, and you took the time. you're always welcome on this show. >> i want to make a case for fairness. i'm not here to represent them, but i think on balance, i think your viewers on cnn, and i think