quote from orwell in "1984." he said the party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. it was their final most sensible -- essential command. it really sounds a lot like what the president is saying. >> i'm afraid you're right, anderson. a healthy democracy depends heavily upon a robust debate with different points of view being freely expressed. that's the whole essence of the first amendment. and the president for a while now, but more relentlessly is trying to suppress the voices of democracy, suppress the voices of the press, denigrate the press. you can't believe what you hear or see, only believe me. listen to us, stick with us. this from a president who routinely lies, five, six, seven times a day according to various studies by "the washington post" and others. he issues most untruthful statements. so it's sort of the height of hypocrisy in some ways too, but it also comes, anderson, i'll be brief, it comes on the heels of just saying yesterday that the white house wants to strip