the connection that tim just outlined for us? >> this is a salacious detail in the investigation. but there is nothing unusual about it. it's not unusual for a prosecutor to -- when they have a particular heir of interest or person or group of interests to work through contacts to sort of continue to interview their way through to investigate their way through the layers of individuals between them and that group of contact. in this case it's people in the trump administration. it's a simple example is you may remember there was the blow pop commercial, talking how many licks does it get to the middle of the blow pop. that's sort of what mueller is doing, working from the outside n. i think what the madam can tell us at the end of the day, what contacts maybe that roger stone had. she apparently was involved in e-mail work, scheduling work. were there contacts with julian assange? was money transferred back and forth? you know, things leak that. >> do you think she will know all of that?