o'connor is in a very competitive race. what do we learn from a policy perspective about what buttons he's pushing? >> it's an important question because i've been talking to republicans and democrats all day about these races, particularly ohio. and there's one thing that they agree on, and that is something really simple, chris. and that's candidates matter. it's easy to forget that when you're in these what looks like potential wave elections. but even in a wave election, in a district like this, your point, where a democrat hasn't won in almost 40 years, waves aren't enough. and so in this particular case, what danny o'connor has done is focus on basically bread and butter issues, on health care, on social security, on medicare, drilling down on those, attacking the parts of the republican tax plan that they believe really -- that he believes really appeals to independents and maybe even some