math. i think the interesting thing we're going to see tonight, this is the august special election. turnout is down. are enough people coming out for danny o'connor down here. and did enough people since we're at 100%, come out up here. is the math enough? a 3,000 vote difference here enough to offset what's happening down here? that's what we're going to go through -- >> it's a question of perspective. obama won this state, romney won the district. hillary clinton, how did she do in this county. in terms of getting us perspective of how democrats have done in the past. this congressional district has been red for all but two years in the last four decades. >> let's look at the 25012 presidential race. this is franklin county, this is the entire county. the part that's in the entire