governor, the same party, and the margin is razor-thin. 91 votes currently separate the two. so either way you're looking at a recount under the law there very likely. but there's one thing. one of the candidates will be in charge of that recount. that candidate is kansas's current secretary of state kris kobach as i told you in the open. his opponent is the sitting governor. he is asking kobach to recuse himself. will secretary kobach accede to the governor's wish? we have him right now. welcome to "prime time." >> great to be with you. >> so the obvious question is are you going to recuse yourself? >> yeah, i actually -- i think i gave him the idea. i said to the press a day or two ago, i said there's really no point in doing it because the secretary of state doesn't actually have any role in the counting of provisional ballots or in any recount. it's purely sort of a titular