entered the world of trump and this case, he said it would be wrapped up in two weeks. that was a couple of months ago. any one who relies on rudy giuliani for information about timelines that are outside of his control i think is making a mistake. mueller will set the timeline and he'll determine when its ready to go. obviously, manafort is going to trial in late september so mueller is not shutting down on september 1st. rudy's comments were investigations of this sort cannot continue 60 days up until an election which is just made up. we're all better off not listening with, you know -- sort of to what giuliani says about dates. they're made up. >> if i just might add, michael, knows this -- >> yeah. >> michael knows this far better than i, but when it comes to that 60 day window that michael just referred to, there are no rules or regulations --