high school classmates coming to us and having to rebut it? it's a difficult situation to have a real, fair hearing. >> the whole thing is delicate. you've spelled it out beautifully, how complicated it is. do we want to be held responsible for what we did drunk in high school or -- which is sexual assault in a different category, even in 1982. and i remember it well. i can put the 1982 lens over that. was this appalling in 1982? >> of course it was. >> should be it disqualifying? >> real time, yes. but i think it's very difficult. we're not talking about a real time situation. even in the al franken example -- i think he should have gone and i think what he did was very bad and he was accused by multiple people, you know, many women, same stories. and he did it as an adult. and he did it recently, within the last decade. so we're not talking about something about kids, 30 years ago. >> margaret, do you think if